Jerky, skipping playback with WMP10 and G-Force Trial

Sunday Ironfoot · Post by **Sunday Ironfoot** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:41 am

I get jerky and skipping playback with the G-Force visualisation, it only happens during transitions between visualisations. After the transaition it's smooth again. How do I fix this? I'm running the trial version, would upgrading to the full version fix this? I think G-Force is a great visualisation and would like very much to buy it if I knew doing so would fix the jerky visualisation issues. My Info:

Windows Media Player 10
Windows XP SP2
Pentium 4 3.5Ghz
1GB RAM
(I'm NOT running any background services - Virus checkers etc)

Many thanks!

Orbstah · Post by **Orbstah** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:00 am

we'll buying it aint gonna fix this problem, although buying it is a good idea as it keeps andy and co working on it and improving it.

are you make the vis change the visualizations ? or is it jerky as it changes itself ?

Normally the stutter only happens when you make geforce change visualizations right away before it has time to prefetch the next vis.

maybe Jaypro will help you more wit the config, me not totally up on it as it all runs nice and smooth here.

I will try it under WMP 10 myself and see what happens

I only got a P4 3.2ghz and 1 gig of ram and a gforce 6600 GT gfx card

so it should run ropey on that compared to your system

Orbstah · Post by **Orbstah** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:45 pm

Ok tried with wmp10 and to be honest its ropey as anything, oml;y in wmp 10

XMPLAY is smooth

Winamp is smooth

itunes is smooth

Must be a problem with wmp 10 any ideas andy, i just get stuttering all the time too

JayPro · Post by **JayPro** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:46 pm

At the risk of beating a dead horse by stating that I own an iMac; I nevertheless would think that your problem might have something to do with Winamp. I've dealt with Winamp and its limitiations in my copy of Virtual PC, however; and this is what leads me to my conclusion.
No doubt my fellow forumers who use Windows can be more specific. Orbstah gave you IMO an excellent starting point.

PS (Cue me thanks to Orbstah's mentioning my name and forte within this program): It *is* true that whenever you are in the program and manually change configs (i.e. not allowing autopilot/slideshow mode to do its mystical supreme randomness whamma jamma) some effects (but *never* colormaps...interestingly enough) will look rather choppy in transition. This is most likely because alot of code goes into effects that exhibit such behavior.

Orbstah · Post by **Orbstah** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:53 pm

hey jaypro, its actually windows media player 10 and not winamp thats causing the problems.

But its only when i run WMP in full screen do i get the jerkiness, every other player i use can handle full screen at 1280 x 1024 with no jerkiness, but windows media 10 can NOT, i never noticed it under Windows media player 10 before coz i dont often run it full screen.

Maybe we are just looking at another great Microshaft program
that has been coded to there usual high standards

Virtual PC is good at what it does but it dont reallly excell in anything.
I still miss me mac, will buy a new one next year me thinks Jaypro.
the hard decission is weather to keep this pc or sell it as its reasonable spec and buy a cheap one and a decent mac, anyways i'm way off topic

Sunday Ironfoot · Post by **Sunday Ironfoot** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:01 pm

I read in your FAQ that 'Hyper Threading' on Pentium 4 CPU's can cause problems, so I set Windows Media Players affinity to just one CPU and that seems to fix the problem, although G-Force doesn't seem quite as smooth when NOT doing a transition, though the jerkiness between transitions is gone and it's smooth enough. FYI the jerkiness only happens between G-Force's own transitions, not when I force it to do one.

So I've fixed it but it's annoying having to manaully set WMP10's CPU affinity everytime I open WMP, does anyone know how to set this permanently?

BTW, I've bought G-Force Gold Edition

JayPro · Post by **JayPro** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:12 pm

Orbstah wrote:hey jaypro, its actually windows media player 10 and not winamp thats causing the problems.

Eh...I knew it hadda be one of those Microsnot media *cough* "player" *cough* thingies...

PS: Apropos of nothing on my part too, I also have Windows Media Player 9. Dreadful. And that's an *in-sane-ly charitable* verdict. So I think I can at least say something for how little Mr. Gates et al. seems to care for allowing Mac users to play .wmv's and the like.

neyel8r · Post by **neyel8r** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:04 pm

yah, i believe it's something w/ WMP that does it, & 4 me, i think it's also the relatively high CPU usage compared 2 Winamp or other players. th@'s why i play my music & enjoy g-force in Winamp!

Post by **keycompton** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:34 am

Orbstah wrote:But its only when i run WMP in full screen do i get the jerkiness, every other player i use can handle full screen at 1280 x 1024 with no jerkiness, but windows media 10 can NOT, i never noticed it under Windows media player 10 before coz i dont often run it full screen.

Maybe we are just looking at another great Microshaft program
that has been coded to there usual high standards :)quote]

Hi Orbstah,

This is indeed a problem unique to Windows Media Player (WMP). The full screen mode in WMP opens a full screen session controlled by WMP and uses the display settings that are configured in Control Panel | Display | Settings. All other media players open a full screen session that is fully controlled by G-Force, allowing G-Force to paint the screen with greater control (as such, commands such as M and Shift M don't work with WMP). This is also why you have to use the WMP controls to enter full screen mode (rather than being able to invoke them through G-Force keystrokes).

Hope this is of help -- sorry about the news as it relates to WMP (unfortunately it's their limitation, not ours).

Regards,
Key