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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

Hi guys.

I want to download the whitecap/gforce programs but I would like to ask some questions.....

Is it possible to run them (whitecap/gforce) in tandem with for example megaseg DJ software, in essence having whitecap playing through the mac into a projecter and at the same time being able to control the megaseg or other dj software interface on the same monitor?

I will upgrade to gold by the way but I just need to know if these issues are solvable.

Thanks for your help in advance.

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Post by Wolf »

Not on the same monitor. To do that you need something like the TwinPact100 that can send a video feed directly from a selected window. I have an S-Vid out on my video card that runs to my TV as a 2nd monitor. I just drag it to that monitor and full screne it. You need to have an alternate vid out (other than your monitor) and to be able to configure it as a 2nd monitor.

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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

Wolf wrote:Not on the same monitor. To do that you need something like the TwinPact100 that can send a video feed directly from a selected window. I have an S-Vid out on my video card that runs to my TV as a 2nd monitor. I just drag it to that monitor and full screne it. You need to have an alternate vid out (other than your monitor) and to be able to configure it as a 2nd monitor.
Great, that clears up one problem. I now know on one monitor its not possible. The method you described above is it for mac or pc?

I really appreciate your help.

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Post by Wolf »

PC... As long as you have another way to display video other than the plug your monitor uses, then it should work on a Mac. If you don't, you should look into getting another vid card or finding a cheep capture card with S-Vid out. S-Vid has better quality than composet video (the yellow vid cable), but either will work.

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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

Wolf wrote:PC... As long as you have another way to display video other than the plug your monitor uses, then it should work on a Mac. If you don't, you should look into getting another vid card or finding a cheep capture card with S-Vid out. S-Vid has better quality than composet video (the yellow vid cable), but either will work.
So if I wanted to do this with two monitors instead of the twinpact, could you decribe that set up to me if possible.

Thanks mate, you are being a real help.

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Post by Wolf »

This is the best way I could describe it:

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I have my TV set up as another monitor (extend the desktop) through the S-Vid cable. I start up Winamp (or any mediaplayer supporting GF), load G-Force, drag it to the TV, and resize it to fill the screen.

If you notice in the pic, I actually have 3 ways to output video (allowing 3 display devices). You need at least 2 for this to work. Most notebooks (including Mac) has a VGA out on it and can be configured to be a 2nd display to the one built into the notebook. The MacMini only has one display connecter (DVI), thus you would need a USB/Firewire device that could act as another monitor.

Also, megaseg DJ does not directly support GF/WC. You would need to get a male-male audio cord and run one from your speaker out to the line in on the computer. Then open the standalone version of GF/WC (Gold only). The same concept appalies to displaing it; just fill the screen.

If you really want to, you could buy a cheep PC for arround $100-$200 that would be powerful enough to run G-Force or WhiteCap smoothly; useing the Mac to mix and the PC for the visual.

I feal like a chemistry teacher... I understand all of this, but have a hard time explaning it. :lol:

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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

Wolf wrote:This is the best way I could describe it:

Image

I have my TV set up as another monitor (extend the desktop) through the S-Vid cable. I start up Winamp (or any mediaplayer supporting GF), load G-Force, drag it to the TV, and resize it to fill the screen.

If you notice in the pic, I actually have 3 ways to output video (allowing 3 display devices). You need at least 2 for this to work. Most notebooks (including Mac) has a VGA out on it and can be configured to be a 2nd display to the one built into the notebook. The MacMini only has one display connecter (DVI), thus you would need a USB/Firewire device that could act as another monitor.

Also, megaseg DJ does not directly support GF/WC. You would need to get a male-male audio cord and run one from your speaker out to the line in on the computer. Then open the standalone version of GF/WC (Gold only). The same concept appalies to displaing it; just fill the screen.

If you really want to, you could buy a cheep PC for arround $100-$200 that would be powerful enough to run G-Force or WhiteCap smoothly; useing the Mac to mix and the PC for the visual.

I feal like a chemistry teacher... I understand all of this, but have a hard time explaning it. :lol:
You are a genius I tell you.....That was exactly what I wanted to know...thankyou very much.

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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

GUNDAM-RX78 wrote:
Wolf wrote:This is the best way I could describe it:

Image

I have my TV set up as another monitor (extend the desktop) through the S-Vid cable. I start up Winamp (or any mediaplayer supporting GF), load G-Force, drag it to the TV, and resize it to fill the screen.

If you notice in the pic, I actually have 3 ways to output video (allowing 3 display devices). You need at least 2 for this to work. Most notebooks (including Mac) has a VGA out on it and can be configured to be a 2nd display to the one built into the notebook. The MacMini only has one display connecter (DVI), thus you would need a USB/Firewire device that could act as another monitor.

Also, megaseg DJ does not directly support GF/WC. You would need to get a male-male audio cord and run one from your speaker out to the line in on the computer. Then open the standalone version of GF/WC (Gold only). The same concept appalies to displaing it; just fill the screen.

If you really want to, you could buy a cheep PC for arround $100-$200 that would be powerful enough to run G-Force or WhiteCap smoothly; useing the Mac to mix and the PC for the visual.

I feal like a chemistry teacher... I understand all of this, but have a hard time explaning it. :lol:
By the way to display what is on the second screen to a projector I just have to have a s-video going to the projecter from the 2nd monitor?

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Post by Wolf »

GUNDAM-RX78 wrote: By the way to display what is on the second screen to a projector I just have to have a s-video going to the projecter from the 2nd monitor?
Projecter, TV, DVR, DV Camcorder, it is all the same. Just set it up as another display, and drag G-Force overe there. :wink:

Unless you actually have a device plugged into the 2nd output, the computer will not recognize it. What are the video outputs you have? This could help me precisely target the problem.

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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

Right well all I want to do is show the second monitor with the g-force visualizer playing on it by hooking it up to a projecter. A 2nd monitor would have the ports to do this right, im guessing that a monitor would have rca and s-video at the least with maybe a third port?

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Post by Wolf »

You don't need another monitor; just plug it directly into the projector and the computer should see it.

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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

Wolf wrote:You don't need another monitor; just plug it directly into the projector and the computer should see it.
You mean plug in an s-video to the 2nd monitor and the projecter will see it? Im looking to display the second monitor into a projecter.

Exactly like your great diagram but with a cable maybe s-videeo outta the 2nd monitor and into a projecter.

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Post by Wolf »

GUNDAM-RX78 wrote:
You mean plug in an s-video to the 2nd monitor and the projecter will see it? Im looking to display the second monitor into a projecter.

Exactly like your great diagram but with a cable maybe s-videeo outta the 2nd monitor and into a projecter.
Ok, I see what you are doing now. = I need to know exactly all the video connections you have and on what device, both inputs and outputs. This is so I can give you the correct adapters and setup.

eg..
Mac - 2 DVI out
Display One - DVI
Display Two - VGA
Projector - VGA in, S-Vid in, Composite in, DVI in


DVI
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VGA
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S-Video
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Composite
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Post by GUNDAM-RX78 »

Ok wolf.

My bosses havent bought the 2nd monitor so I cant say but the mac we are using has an s-video and a mini VGA and a DVI, on the projecter is a s-video and RCA and a VGA.

I heard on VGA the cable cant be over two meters long?

thanks.

to be able to do what I want to do what outputs would we need on the 2nd monitor?

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Post by Wolf »

This is assuming you already have a DVI monitor:

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This is the cheepest and easiest route.
Use DVI as your primary monitor.

Mini VGA to VAG Adapter - $12.00
VGA Y Splitter Cable - $7.04

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