3 questions/remark for Aeon Standalone For Mac

[garaga30]

Hi.
Using Aeon 1.1.1 Platinum For Mac, specifically Aeon Standalone. Mac OS 10.5.8.

1- Even though it's stated there:

http://www.soundspectrum.com/aeon/standalone.html

that:

Note: the Mac OS X operating system doesn't allow third party applications to access audio from iTunes or the OS

... the "Built-in Output" option appears, as well as my iMic USB audio system. Sadly, selecting any of them doesn't make Aeon Standalone react to music. It would be SO SIMPLER if such a thing was possible; right now i contemplate wiring BACK my mix, to an Input port, because of this. There should be a software-oriented way of doing it!

Maybe a 3rd-party app could help me in this?

2- I appreciate the possibility of getting Aeon Standalone in Fullscreen mode on a secondary monitor. This should enable showing visualization on the LCD tv at my club while DJing on the same computer. I'd like to be able to show fullscreen visualization with text and/or image ON TOP of it. I see 2 ways of doing it, but both don't work:

a) Aeon Standalone being really in Fullscreen mode, but somehow overriding this with another application?

b) Aeon Standalone being in windowed mode, and that being maxed out. The problem is, the grey title bar remains at the top. It ruins the setup on the LCD!!! For iTunes, I had found an Applescript to do it, and it works:

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tell application "iTunes"
	set bounds of window 1 to {-1680, -70, 0, 1080}
end tell

But with Aeon Standalone, it doesn't:

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tell application "Aeon Standalone"
	set bounds of window 1 to {-1680, -70, 0, 1080}
end tell

gives:

Aeon Standalone got an error: Can't set bounds of window 1 to {-1680,-70,0,1080}.

3- Why are the options regarding Track Text configurable in Aeon Standalone??? It doesn't seem to be looking for track information from iTunes at all; since this is a Standalone app, I would have expect it, for it to work, that there would be a way of selecting one of the compatible apps for getting the track information.

Moreover I'd like to use either Traktor or Djay to broadcast the Track Text and Aeon Standalone to display it (the same way it does it in the iTunes visualization plugin). Could this be done? How could be tweak it on the Aeon Standalone side?

Thank you.

[garaga30]

Dare I say: Bump!

[BTT]

Hello garaga30

The only guy who can answer your questions is m2c who, I believe wrote the code for Aeon. I suggest you click on the link below, ask your questions and mark it for his attention.

http://www.soundspectrum.com/support/contact.html


Regards BTT

[m2c]

Hi garaga,

Not sure if you've submitted this to our support section, but I'll answer what I can here =p

1) I'm unfamiliar with what 3rd party apps would allow you 'what you hear' input through Aeon standalone, but perhaps one exists. The problem is really with what OS X provides, unfortunately.

2) Well, while Aeon doesn't officially support text/images overlayed globally, the next update will support some internal functionality to trigger things with the keyboard. Note that using this involves diving into the python code of our scenes. Once we finalize and release the next update (soon!), I can show you where to start with the keyboard-handling code, but it would involve learning a bit of python.

3) Unfortunately there is no way to send track info to Aeon Standalone. Perhaps something can be manually done with the keyboard commands mentioned in 2).

Also, to clarify, most of my part in Aeon is on the content side - Andy is the engine guru =p Speaking of which, the next update features looooadds of content improvements [and at least 6-7 new scenes], and certain platform compatibility fixes. We're working on that update as we speak!

Sneak peek of new content:
http://i.imgur.com/Cddas.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GnRWx.jpg

[BTT]

Hello m2c

Thanks for the preview pics, Cddas.jpg looks like real class while GnRWx.jpg looks a blurred mess. Just my opinion.


Regards BTT

[JayPro]

@m2c;

You do realize, of course, that screencaps do absolutely no justice to a moving pircture...
Just saying...

[BTT]

The main reason that I do not rate Aeon is because of the sort of scenes just like GnRWx.jpg. There are others scenes but that's for another day.


Regards BTT

[JayPro]

IMO once we get a better feel of how to deal with Aeon's hair-trigger response/preamp issues (at least as I see it), I think that many of the scenes some of us are criticizing now will look better.
Bit right now, I must say that with Aeon, the feature aforementioned is a case of feast or famine. IOW, there's either not enough of it to make a dent in the scene's reaction to sound, or too much so as to make an otherwise beautiful vision look downright sloppy.
And it doesn't help that no sooner do you find the perfect settings for both parameters within a particular scene than the one next on queue shows the issues I laid out.
There should be a happy medium for all scenes, i.e. an ideal numerical setting for both preamp and response scales.

This general issue, plus the annoying lag in scene transition--which I surely trust is being looked into and analyzed/dealt with accordingly--are the two things that keep me from giving Aeon a Perfect Ten.

[Tat3r]

The first poster asked this question at the very end of post and I think it got over looked:

Will Aeon standalone operate in dual screen mode, while the primary screen is being used to operate Traktor Pro 2 (a music mixing software)?

Caveats: the Traktor Pro software is sending audio output through a USB to the controller/turntable then from there out to the speakers. So can Aeon standalone still utilize the Mac's built in microphone to react to the music, while being output through the Mini Display port to a projector?

Make sense? Basically, will Aeon still allow me to work on the Mac's screen/display while in dual display mode or will it blank out the Mac's display while it is being output to a projector?

Thanks in advance.

[m2c]

Tat3r:

Yes, Aeon should work fine fullscreen on the 2nd display device (projector/whatever is considered a 2nd monitor), and will not black out the primary screen.

Aeon will respond to the mac's microphone in standalone mode, but I suggest using an audio jack in the mic input for the best audio response.