G-Force free now shuts down WMP 10

johnk · Post by **johnk** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:31 am

I want to upgrade to G-Force Platinum. but now my free G-Force shuts down windows media player 10, when I click now playing.

my 6 year old PC motherboard had problems, & I have now had my PC upgraded with a new motherboard, graphics card,cpu & ram. I am still using the same HDD.

My PC is :-

Windows XP ,SP 3,

CPU = AMD Athlon II x2 255

video card = ATI Radeon HD 5450

Mother board = MSI NF725GM-P31

Ram = Elixer 4 GB DDR3, 1333 Mhz

I have uninstalled G-Force, remove the WMP toolbar, removed the visualizations folders in programs & in documents & settings, then reinstalled G-Force, but still shuts down WMP.

I downloaded Whitecaps free & this works fine.

I put in my old graphics card & still no good.

I have a SoundSpectrum Support Ticket #49322 but the last reply was:-

"it's possible that our current version of G-Force (4.2.0) is too CPU or graphics intensive to run on your machine."

But this cpu & graphics card is far faster than my 6 year old one, so I dont understand there reply.

What are the PC requirements for G-Force to work ?? CPU, Graphics card, or any other programs ???

I really miss my G-Force, so please help me

Johnk

Post by **BTT** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:57 am

Hello johnk

The specifications of your system are perfectly capable of running G-Force if you have the 512Mb or 1Gb graphics card.
Does G-Force work in WMP when in Library mode but, not when in Now Playing mode?

Do you see any error messages?

Regards BTT

jerohm · Post by **jerohm** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:04 pm

things that come to mind is that GF interfaces with it's toolbar using network facilities... which is different than Whitecaps. I ASSUME you did a complete reload of XP when you installed the new MB, right? BTT is certainly correct that you should have MORE than enough raw computer resources to run GF. If it was ME, I guess I would see if I could get things to work as a WinAmp plugin... that would tell you something. It is more than likely a registry snafu or another program (i.e., Bonjour or the like) is causing the problem.
luck

johnk · Post by **johnk** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:26 am

Hi BTT & Jerohm, thanks for the reply, my graphics card is 1GB,
BTT you ask Does G-Force work in WMP when in Library mode but, not when in Now Playing mode? I dont understand the question, how can I see if GF is working in Library mode ??All I know is WMP works fine in Library mode & when I click Now playing the problem occurs & WMP shuts down.
sometimes an error report shows & I send to microsoft, as follows

Error signature
AppName: wmplayer.exe
AppVer: 10.0.0.3640
ModName: iphlpapi/dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.5512
OffSet: 00008eb1.

The guy I bought the PC from upgraded my system & said he did a repair of my HDD so windows xp would work with the new motherboard.

I downloaded winamp & GF for winamp, & when I selected GF in the list of visualizations, & clicked start (All this in winamp) error message:-
plugin executed illegal operation, re start of winamp is recommended.
All other visualizations in winamp work ok.

Error signature
szAppName: winamp.exe
szAppVer: 5.6.2.3173
szModName: hung app
szModVer: 0.0.0.0
OffSet: 00000000
I hope this makes the problem clearer.

Thanks
John

jerohm · Post by **jerohm** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:03 am

... The guy I bought the PC from upgraded my system & said he did a repair of my HDD so windows xp would work with the new motherboard...

You are wasting your time... you NEED to reload XP... SP3 is certainly the most stable version out there, but if your registry is goofed up (which is MY guess), the chances of straightening things out is next to impossible. Before SP3, I needed to reload XP/SP2 every 6 months or so... It is just a fact of life. I would be

if you can prove me wrong!
luck

Post by **BTT** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:19 pm

Hello johnk

I agree with all jerohm has said, a complete reinstall of Windows is an absolute must. However, before proceeding I would advise you to make copies of all relevant drivers including of course the Mother-Board.

Regards BTT

johnk · Post by **johnk** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:58 am

Thanks BTT & Jerohm,

Jerohm If you say my "registry is goofed up (which is MY guess), the chances of straightening things out is next to impossible. " then whats the point of re installing XP sp3??

Im not sure if I told you, I have XP sp3 now & had on it on the old PC with the same HDD when GF worked. I'm using the same HDD now as before.

what could be goofed up in the registry to stop GF working,
& how could this have occured
& cant the registry be fixed ????

Thanks

JohnK

jerohm · Post by **jerohm** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:45 am

The registry is a hodgepodge repository used by MS and 3rd Party Developers to store static 'configuration' variables - it is an absolute abortion. Not a bad idea, but no common thread exists to facilitate/enforce any level of conherancy. To make things worse, uninstall programs hardly ever completely remove/revert all the actions performed during an install. When third party driver/software interfaces with Windows services, it makes certain assumptions/modifications from/to registry entries... that may, or may not have been modified by still 'other' programs. SP3 addressed a lot of MS sins ... it couldn't fix all of the issues (especially if you didn't install SP3 on top of a virgin SP2 installation). If you change a major hardware component ... and believe me a MB IS a major component (unless replaced with an identical), you are asking for trouble. I am NOT criticizing the person who worked on your unit... just getting it to BOOT is a major accomplishment... but it is a kludge none the less, that is gonna come back to bite you ... someday...

I would like someone to prove me wrong

johnk · Post by **johnk** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:33 am

Hi jerohm,

I dont understand your reply, as you never answerd all my questions

(sept 28).

can you please do that for me so I understand more clearly.

surely there must be something in the registry that GF need to make it work

correctly????

Regards

John

jerohm · Post by **jerohm** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:18 am

From your initial post, I ASSUME that you never started with a fresh, reinstalled copy of XP w/SP3 after you replaced your motherboard. If you didn't, maybe somebody else can chime in, but your situation is too convoluted for me to want to get involved; I am sorry if you feel I wasted your time. I have taken on such commitments (for $$$) in the past, and it has only cost me money and it never turned out pretty ... ever. One part of owning a computer, is a plan should anything go wrong... and PRIOR to a fresh install of XP/SP3, you needed the ability to reinstall the Operating System... i.e., Installation Discs (drivers & license key). **Note** Installing SP3 on top of [a corrupted/non-virgin] XP/SP2 [registry] doesn't cut it.
If you have the ability to start with a newly reinstalled copy of XP/SP3, I would be happy to assist you to the best of my abilities... but I don't think you would even NEED any assistance if you are willing to start from ground zero. My only suggestion at this point is to backup your drivers & personal data and reinstall XP/SP3... If that is NOT an option, I can't help you.

PS: The most likely thing(s) messed up in the registry is the networking or DirectX components. Since WhiteCaps works, my first guess would be networking (unique to the GF toolbar interface)

Wombat66 · Post by **Wombat66** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:53 pm

I have to agree, as hard as it may be to accept, a fresh install would be the best way to fix your problem. Plus you'll get all the other benefits of having a fresh install.

johnk · Post by **johnk** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:30 am

Hi jerohm & Wombat66,

Firstly jerohm, I never said or thought you wasted my time.
I'm very great full to you, that you spent your time to help me.

I understand what you say re a new install sp3, & will talk to my PC guy about this.
I just wanted to try to understand what the problem is, & why the rest of my programs all work OK & only GF wont workwith my updated system.

I was hoping I could just fix the problem with GF with an adjustment to the registry.!!! as GF is my only problem.

Because I dont understand what GF needs tomake it run correctly, it makes it hard for me to try to fix it. I usually fix all my minor probs, & only go to the experts when all else fails.

Could you indulge me one more time, by telling me what you think the problem is in the registry RE the networking, & how GF works with this part of the registry & what the registry should be in this regard.

I must now say I'm a bit disappointed with Sound spectrum's response to my problem, because after telling me my new CPU & graphics card must be to slow for GF to work, I've heard nothing from them since.
I did reply to there last message telling them again my PC specs, so they know my CPU Graphics card are both OK, they still did not reply to me.

I'm very glad this forum is here & thanks to all that have tried to help me,
I now have to use Winamp & their Milkdrop program, which is good but not a patch on GF.

Thanks to all

john

Post by **BTT** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:16 pm

Hello johnk

The only way you will resolve your problem is by formatting your Hard Drive and carrying out a fresh install of Windows. You must backup all your drivers first though. This will resolve any issues with the registry.

If your not sure how to do this click on the link below for step by step instructions.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978788

Regards BTT